Friday, March 28, 2008

naming God (as an accomplice)

Anyone who knows me knows that I have a problem with religion. It's not that I don't believe in God or that I hate all religious stuff. I just don't like the way most religious groups preach one thing and do another. Like tolerance. Saying "love thy neighbor" doesn't mean a whole lot when you are bad mouthing the neighbor because they aren't "real" christians.
Part of my problem is that I just have no appreciation for fanaticism. Whether it's of the tight-lipped, judgemental kind or the wild-haired, eye-rolling martyr type, I pretty much lose interest about the point some yahoo tells me they heard it straight from God's mouth. Somehow I have a hard time believing God is all that interested in talking to some freeze-dried whackaloon.
Reading the news this morning, I ran across this article. Basically, this little 11 year old girl in Wisconsin died because her parents believed it was better to pray over her than take her to a doctor. She had a treatable form of diabetes, which apparently went undiagnosed. Even though she had been showing signs of serious illness for over a month according to family and friends, her parents thought they should just hold fast in their faith and everything would be okay. I read the article and even watched the video. During the video, pieces of two 911 calls are played. The one from the aunt was awful. The aunt seemed sure the mother would fight EMS over taking the daughter to the hospital. Then I read this article, which was an interview with some so-called man of God about his interaction with the family. He had apparently spoken to the parents as they rode behind the ambulance transporting their comatose daughter. I'll just paste the bit that pissed me off:

In the call Sunday, "they told me that she had stopped breathing and asked if I would pray that The Lord would spare her and raise her up, which I did," he wrote. "I called on our prayer ministers and elders to pray for her too. "The next thing I heard from them was that they were being investigated,which is sad since they don't investigate the people who put their trust in doctors whose family members die by the hundreds of thousands from medical mistakes every year, according the AMA's own admission. "We know that the doctors do the best they can with what they have and we do not condemn them. We would like the same consideration."



Umm, excuse me?? This moron is comparing his mouthing of pleas and platitudes with the work of a doctor who knows how to treat the disease the girl had. How on earth these dummies think their prayers are on the same level as actual treatment just floors me. Sorry, prayers and faith are great but THEY ARE NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SUBSTITUTE FOR REAL MEDICAL INTERVENTION! Pray all you want while the doctors are giving your kid medicine. Just don't leave out the part where you take the kid to the doctor. As far as I'm concerned the parents are guilty of criminal negligence, that freak preacher is guilty of encouraging (or demanding, depending on his preaching) same and now the adults who should have been taking care of this kid are trying to blame God. That's right, I said blame. None of them are taking responsibility. None of them are saying "Yes, I decided not to take Madeline to the doctor when she got sick. I decided she didn't need medicine, just prayer. I denied Madeline medical care and she died because I decided to pray instead of use my God-given common sense." Not one of these adults has stepped forward and admitted their decisions were this little girl's primary cause of death. Nope, instead they are all saying "We prayed for her" "We did the best we could do" "We stayed fast in prayer" "Our lives are in God's hands" . So, in other words, they are saying it isn't their fault this little girl died from a treatable condition (diabetes), she died because God wanted her to. Somehow, I have a problem believing that. God gave us brains and brains are for thinking, not filling up the space inside your skull to keep down the echoes. As far as the last sentence in the preacher's statement, about receiving the same consideration as doctors, I call BULLSHIT! He doesn't deserve any consideration, he deserves at the least a foot in the ass. He and the parents did not do the best they could, they didn't do anything (the parents weren't even the ones who called 911). Why should they receive any consideration, why does he think that his efforts were on par with what a doctor could have done? A doctor could have actually treated Madeline for diabetes. Instead, Madeline dies at the ripe old age of 11 and her parents and preacher pat themselves on the back for keeping the faith. That's not a miscarriage of justice, that's an abortion of truth. How much you wanna bet her parents are pro-lifers committed to saving unborn children? Too bad Madeline was already past the fetal stage.

8 comments:

  1. Whoo - het up there Morpho! But I do agree with you. Also, for people with faith there are expressions, such as in the Koran where God takes care of you once you tie up your camel first - that is, take care of business first. God can't take care of your camel if you don't take care of it. The bible's (?) God helps those who help themselves could be similar. Common sense is evident in those expressions.

    And humanity hopefully gives this to us to varying degrees, too (or hopefully we learn it along the way). This type of thing is distressing, and avoidable, and the preacher is a hypocritical shyster without a lick of a sense of responsibility. But maybe they believe what they say - maybe it is preferable to think that they do.

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  2. I am in 100% agreement with you on this one, Morpho. My thought process goes this:

    If all things come from God, then so does knowledge. The application of the medical field is simply the use of knowledge.

    I'm sure someone has tried to make this argument with these types of religions, but I don't know what their counter-argument has been.

    I also think rose has it right, God helps those who help themselves. Certain things are provided to us as tools to be used for this purpose.

    Anyway, it makes me sick that anyone (especially a child) dies from something that could have been treated.

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  3. I have no problem with adults not seeking medical help if they would prefer to rely on their religion to heal them. I have a HUGE problem with parents making that sort of life-or-death decision for their daughter, who they have a moral obligation to care for until she is old enough to make her own decisions. Let her make that call when she's an adult.

    There is nothing evil about medicine. It does not make sense that we should ignore the skills we have been given the capacity to hone.

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  4. So when these folks get hungry, do they eat, or just pray?

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  5. the post was what i ended up with after i calmed down somewhat and edited out a whole lot of really rude stuff
    troy - BL made a similar point - she said the next time those parents got hungry or thirsty the prison guard ought to tell them to pray, god will provide.

    i agree that if the child grows up and decides to follow this path as an adult thats ok.
    i had a friend in high school whose parents were (i believe) jehovahs witnesses - anyway their church didnt believe in medical intervention. junior year april had a lump come up in her throat. when it didn't go away after a week her mom took her to the dr. turns out she had advanced hodgkins. she did chemo radiation and had part of her glands removed. when some of her parents fellow church members griped about that, her parents told them MYOB, this is between us and god. our daughter is more important to us than someone elses ideology. their pov was that god showed them that things like cancer were the reason he had given the world medicine and doctors.

    anyways, i don't want this to turn into a whole post on its own, so i'll just say that i'm glad to know i'm not the only one who was appalled. maybe i won't be the only one in this handbasket ;D

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  6. dawn - you are always amazing. I completely agree with you that fanatacism is one thing and religion is another. Unfortunately, I grew up near this part of Wisconsin (just north of Wausau - mentioned, and misspelled, I might add! in the article). I read about this and was horrified that people are that arrogant and/or willing to take a chance with their daughter's life. Why not take her to the hospital and pray to God that her doctors have steady hands and clear minds to help heal her?!?

    That poor girl.

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  7. I ran across this accidentally, so forgive my late reply. As a Christian, I am offended by these kinds of people - they give us all a bad name, make us all look like crazy, fanatical idiots.

    Does it NEVER occur to these "I won't use conventional medical treatment, just prayer!" dipshits that, oh, MAYBE GOD IMBUED PEOPLE WITH THE IDEAS TO INVENT THAT CONVENTIONAL MEDICAL TREATMENT? Don't they have enough brain cells in their heads to rub together to think that prayer alone isn't the only solution?

    Guess not. Yes, God wants us to have faith in Him, but He also wants us to have faith in the things He created to make our lives a bit easier, like modern medicine. It's a shame that in a world where diabetes is so easily treatable, this child died. These parents don't even understand that they will have to answer to God for the sin they committed against their child. That's so very sad.

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